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Steve Snell
Dog Training Collars & More: My Rants and Raves

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  1. Karen Rynearson, Shawn Dunlap Nierstheimer and 226 others like this.
  2. Kpw Lee very impressive product
  3. Tina Perron Pretty cool!
  4. Jason Waterhouse Can the alpha track our exisiting dc-30 and dc-40 collars?
  5. Shane Geno It said in the vidio that they do not track the dc collers
  6. Gun Dog Supply Yeah… The ALPHA is NOT compatible any other Garmin Astro or Tri-tronics collars. We wouldn’t have the faster 2.5 second update rate AND we wouldn’t have the 20-dog expandability if the ALPHA was backwards compatible with any other systems.
  7. Jason Waterhouse That kinda stinks in a way.I have 7 DC-30 collars and 1 DC-40 Wish I could track them with the alpha.Thanks for the info.
  8. Fully Loaded English Kennels Well I guess the 320 I just bought will be my new back up system
  9. Shane Geno What is the price of the alpha with three collers through gun dog supply?
  10. Fully Loaded English Kennels But will UKC allow you to use it in a hunt? They banned the Tek 1 unit in comp hunts.
  11. Juan Pena will previous models without the training attachment be phased out?
  12. Gun Dog Supply I don’t believe so. Garmin is a GPS company first.
  13. Steve Horton I’ll be interested when they add a beeper.
  14. Georgia Hunter We’ve had ours for 2 seasons, awesome for big running dogs. It will save a dog from getting lost and the owner from a nervous breakdown!!
  15. Steve Snell ‎Shane Geno the 3 dog set up is $1399.97 http://www.gundogsupply.com/garmin-tri-tronics-alpha-3-dog-system.html
  16. Garmin ALPHA 3-Dog
  17. www.gundogsupply.comGarmin ALPHA 3-Dog. Comes With: 1 Alpha 100 handheld Rechargeable li-ion pack …See More
  18. Steve Snell ‎Steve Horton – I don’t see a beeper getting added – there just isn’t enough room. Some folks want it but I’m not sure it is possible.
  19. Cheryl Applebaum Oh no… something ELSE we will drool over! :O
  20. Freeman Hardin Ok, now my $600.00 Astro with the extra $200.00 collar is now obsolete!!
  21. Corey Ellegood Defntly getting me one of these for my hunting dog since he’s new to hunting can’t wait!!!
  22. Brad Preas Garmin needs to work the kinks out of their existing products instead of trying to continue develop new gear. They are alienating customers! I own the 320 with dc 40′s and it is great when it is working but I am not overly impressed with it. Thank goodness i kept my Wildlife box and Johnson collars!
  23. Gun Dog Supply ‎Freeman — Not obsolete! :) It’s like buying any technology, the moment you buy it you know the next model is already in development.
  24. William Harper ‎@brad you’re unit is burned up.
  25. John Robert Williamson Can a burned up unit be fixed?
  26. Sharon Maynard Watson I think this is a very good idea.
  27. Sharon Maynard Watson You can get a vet to put a tracking device just under the skin. And it is a tracking device.
  28. Gun Dog Supply MIcrochipping dogs is a good idea, but you have to be pretty close to that chip to read it. Would be nice if THOSE things had a “nine mile” range. — Rob
  29. Lynn Garrett-Stephens You have to actually scan the chip to read a number, then call that particular chip company for the owner info. You can’t GPS track your dogs.
  30. Lynn Garrett-Stephens I should add, you can track with a collar, but not with the microchip the vet administers…

 

New Garmin Alpha GPS Collar + E-Collar (Tri-tronics)

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The original Garmin Alpha: both a dog training collar AND a dog tracking collar…

 

Good discussions here
When Garmin bought the Tri-tronics dog training collar company, we knew a GPS + Ecollar was in the works, we just didn’t know when. Now announcing the state-of-the-art Garmin Alpha. You can track and train your dog on the same screen from a single hand held unit. You can track your friends’ handhelds, know when your dog is out of gun range, see your dog is running too big before he gets too far and more. The Garmin Alpha is expandable up to 20 dog and uses a touch screen instead of multi-dog toggle switches. Each dogs’ setting are customizable and easily accessible. There is a rescue mode and longer battery life to ensure no more lost dogs and a 2.5 second update rate means you’ll know twice as fast when your dog is in birds or treeing prey.
Garmin Astro

Email Question – How Many Dogs Can You Track with the Garmin Astro?

Steve,
I recently spoke to a distributor with intent to purchase the Garmin Astroand he told me that my hunting party could only use (1) hand help gps unit to track up to 10 different dogs.  This concerns me.  I wanted the ability for all 4 of my hunting buddies to be able to track all of the dogs.  Was the distributor telling the truth????
 
 M. S.
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M,

Thanks for contacting Gun Dog Supply.  The Astro handheld can track up to 10 dogs.  If you and your guys are only running 10 dogs at one time, you can all track each others dogs.  You can use an unlimited number of Handheld Astro Receivers to track these dogs. 

The Astro DC 30 Collar is like a small radio station.  As long as you know the channel it is broadcasting on and you are in range, you can pick it up.

If you run more than 10 dogs you would not be able to track them all at one time from the same unit.

If you run less than 10 dogs, you can all track from your hand held and still have room to add more dogs at any time.

Please let me know if you have any questions.  We do appreciate your business.

Thanks,

Steve Snell
Gun Dog Supply – http://www.gundogsupply.com

The Whoa Post




The Whoa Post is by far my favorite part of the Ronnie Smith Seminar. It is an amazing way to teach a dog to whoa or sit.

I told several folks today about the first time I saw the whoa post in action in it’s current form. I grew up using the “Delmar Smith Method” for teaching whoa. It was similar but it used a leather pinch collar around the neck instead of a half hitch around the dogs flank.

The reason the Smith’s changed it over to the flank was because of improvements in Ecollar technology. When the stimulation levels got low and you could raise them as needed it changed the way you could use them. That allowed them to use the collar on the flank.

The idea behind the Whoa post is that you have a stationary object with a rope attached to it with a snap. You have your dog on a checkcord. You bring the dog to the rope and run it between the dogs back legs. You tie a half hitch around his waste and attach the snap to the D ring on the dogs collar.

This makes a Point of Contact at the dogs flank. When you pull tight on the lead checkcord the dog gets stimulation at the flank. He has no where to go. He is stuck between you and the stationary object. He can fight it all he wants, but as long as you hold on, your dog is going to stand still.

Most dogs fight it at first, but quickly learn that the fastest way out is to stop the second they feel stimulation at the flank.

Once you have repeated this drill 30 to 50 times depending on the dog, you can move on to the ecollar around the flank.




It allows you to stop a dog dead in his tracks at any distance. Once you have this down, you can take the chase from a dog and get him steady on his game. After that, you can get him steady to wing, shot and dead fall. These are major parts of developing a fully trained hunting dog.

The first time I saw this technique in action was at a Rick Smith Seminar that I attended in 2002 in Pleasanton, TX. It was my first seminar since I was 14.

Rick was getting ready to start the Whoa Post and needed a dog that did not know what whoa was and had never stopped for anything. I had the perfect dog for him.

Ruby was out of my Em dog and Shadow’s Mark. She had more go than she knew what to do with and I had done very little work with her at the time. She had no idea how to stop or any good reason why you would want to stop.

Rick put her on the post and worked her through the basics. He then moved her past that and had her understanding the “concept” and stopping as soon as she felt the smallest amount of pressure at her flank.

He then moved her to an ecollar around her waist. He worked her out to a check cord toward a bird in a remote release trap. Once she got the scent and went on point, he stimed her around her flank. She stopped and held point. He then flushed the bird and stimed her again. She stood steady to wing.

The next part really amazed me. He walked away and left her standing there. Rick came back over to where we were sitting and talked a bit more about what he had done and how to go about training your dog this way.

I really didn’t hear much of what he said because I was watching Ruby the whole time.

There she was standing still 75 yards away from anyone. She had never done this before and she had nothing holding her back. At any point she could break and run. She had no tracking collar on her and I would have no way to find her if she did break. My only hope was that Rick knew everyone in the county and somebody would find my dog.

To make matters worse, about a thousand black birds started flying over her. Wave after wave of birds started to blacken out the sky. She watched them all, standing completely still with all four feet planted firmly on the ground.

I know for a fact that most folks at the seminar thought she was a plant. A fully trained dog that was brought in to show folks how talented Rick was and how effective his training would be on their dogs.




I knew that this particular dog had no idea what she was doing. It was the Whoa Post – not the dog.

Rick finished up his talking and walked out to my pup. He grabbed her check cord and quartered her off like it a regular day and she had done it a thousand times.

Now we were not finished. I had to work her on the post and get her to fully understand the concepts and move her to the flank. It worked really fast.

I use this method on all my dogs now and it works like a charm.

Click here to read part one of Rick’s “Whoa Post Redux” and here for “Whoa Post Redux – Part 2″

Steve

Gun Dog Supply